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Waste, Fraud, and Abuse in Health Care

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It’s been estimated that waste, fraud, and abuse in health care spending in the US ranges from 3% to 10%. The Trump Administration and Elon Musk have been taking a chainsaw to what they are claiming is “cutting waste, fraud, and abuse” in government. But what constitutes waste, fraud and abuse? Can more transparency—including price transparency—be a solution? And can a chainsaw approach to reducing health care spending really address waste, fraud and abuse? Dr. Diana Mason, RN, producer and host of HealthCetera, discusses these questions with Dr. Kumhee Ro, a registered nurse and associate professor in the Seattle University College of Nursing. Dr. Ro also has served as a Robert Wood Johnson Health Policy Fellow, with experiences in Washington, DC, and her home state of Washington. This interview first aired on HealthCetera in the Catskills on WIOX Radio on May 21, 2025.

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Diana is a senior policy service professor with the George Washington University School of Nursing Center for Health Policy and Media Engagement and founder of HealthCetera. She was previously president of the American Academy of Nursing and the Rudin Professor of Nursing at Hunter-Bellevue School of Nursing. She is a health policy expert and leader. Diana tweets @djmasonrn.

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